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Question:
I have been growing more and more inclined to keep a vegetarian diet. Recently, after speaking with an unabashed vegetarian, she sent me a link to a documentary which contains videos of the slaughtering of cows under kosher supervision. The videos show treatment to animals that seems to be beyond cruel. The animal suffers much longer than I would have anticipated and while it may be within the letter of the law, I find it hard to believe that the Tora would sanction such cruelty. What are the limits of saar baalei hayim? Do you believe that there is room to say that one should consider keeping a vegetarian lifestyle when it reflects a sense of sensitivity and refinement on their part?
Answer:
One could write a book on the subject. Here is a short version:
1. I deplore any and all instances of gratuitous ssa'ar ba'ale hayim. Such things must be stopped. 2. A person contemplating to refrain from eating meat for this reason needs to keep the following in mind: what you eat, or choose not to eat, will have no impact whatever on what goes on in abattoirs. 3. The Tora does not command or even exhort us to be vegetarians. Many misswoth involve the eating of meat. 4. I understand that from a medical perspective, protein in general, and animal protein in particular, is important and healthy. 5. The fact is that all peoples and all cultures consume meat. This has been so from time immemorial. The only exception that comes to mind is traditional Indian culture; their abstention from meat is rooted in 'Avodha Zara, i.e. their veneration of cattle. Rambam writes of this in Mor'e HaN'vukhim 3:30 and 3:46. 6. The Tora (B'reshith 9:3) specifically permits eating animal flesh; I view this as a clear indication that this is the way of the world as we know it. Who's to say that we should be trying to turn the clock back to pre-Noahide times? 7. I do not see this as being at the top of our Jewish agenda, and I question the level-headedness of those who do. Present day Western culture has almost eliminated the distinction between man and beast; Tora Judaism unabashedly places humans above animals. Once upon a time this was deemed by all cultures to be self-evident. 8. I similarly question whether those who feel that the question of granting 's'mikha' to women is the most burning issue that the Jewish people must grapple with today have their heads screwed on straight. (I am not here expressing an opinion on the matter. I am drawing attention to what I consider to be misplaced priorities.) Both are examples of adopting an agenda from without the framework of Tora, from external society, and placing it on a pedestal. I cannot help but feel that something about these positions is not quite right. These, briefly, are my thoughts. Rabbi David Bar-Hayim
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I am currently, b'li neder, on a one year vegetarian diet. After that, I will see. So far, it has been good for me, as far as I can tell.
I believe eating animals is fine and proper, if done right. But mass production of meat, even in the kosher industry, is something I don't want to support with my money or my body.
I think that if more Jews refrained from the mass meat production market, things would get better. Money counts and causes change..if the consumer demands it.
Rav Bar-Hayim, do you believe Jews HAVE to eat meat if they don't want to? Is it, or is it not an obligation?
Thanks!
The largest firms will not tolerate cruelty to livestock, as it is bad for efficiency.
Livestock ARE ANIMALS. They are the most predictable sapient beings there is. It is so VERY EASY to kill livestock in a totally humane way.
A quick Google search will reveal that many such products are already available. All we need do is to vote with our pocketbooks and support suppliers of humanely slaughtered, kosher meat.
What is the rav's opinion about kosher slaughter in general and the pain to the animal in that process - in a slaughterhouse vs. a private shochet (if they exist anymore) etc? This subject was not addressed in the response.
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