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| The False Mashiah of Lubavitch-Habad |
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| Wednesday, 13 October 2010 17:38 |
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Question:
In your lecture “Rabbinical Paralysis” you mentioned (around the 24th/25th minute) a false Moshiach from the recent past. To whom do you refer? As far as I know there has been no false Moshiach since Shabsai Tzvi.
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2. Upon assuming leadership of Habad in 1951, the last rebbe spoke openly about his deceased father-in-law, the former rebbe, being the Mashiah (see the first in a series of talks given on the occasion of his father-in-law’s yahrzeit, later published as a book entitled “Bathi L’Ghani Ahothi Kala”). At some point he apparently realized that his father-in-law was not returning from the grave to reappear as Mashiah; he eventually decided that the Mashiah was none other than himself. 3. In the early decades of his leadership, this was an esoteric teaching known only to his inner circle. In the late 1970’s, the Lubavitcher rebbe himself began alluding to the “fact” that the Mashiah was “living among us” and left none of his listeners in any doubt as to his meaning. This inane campaign became increasingly frenzied and irrational. Rather than faltering at the time of his death in 1994, the insanity continues to spread. At Habad headquarters in New York the expectation is that their rebbe will miraculously reappear. Shaharith is delayed each morning for 5 minutes just in case….at which point the gabai announces that “the rebbe” is apparently unable to make it today, and Shaharith begins. I kid you not. 4. This outrageous phenomenon is not as surprising as it may at first seem. Shabtai Ssvi’s followers were known as “Zoharisten”, an allusion to the fact that they, like their leader and demigod, were heavily influenced by the Zohar. Lubavitch Hasidism is rooted in a literalistic reading of the Zohar and Lurianic Qabala, which when uncritically combined with the radical and pernicious notions spawned by the speculative school of Hasidic thought founded by the Magid of Mezritch, could only have led to the present heretical state of affairs. 5. This, I believe, is why the Gr’a z’l (the Vilna Gaon) refused to meet with the original Lubavitcher rebbe even when the latter came to Vilna to convince him to rescind the herem (religious ban) the Gr’a had signed against Lubavitch and similar movements. In his great and profound wisdom the Gr’a saw that these Jews had crossed the point of no return. The Gr’a was able to be “HaRo’e eth haNoladh (One who sees that which is yet to come)” (see Avoth 2:12 or 2:9).
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I just got home from a Chabad wedding in Bnei Brak. Yuck!
It seems that the "meshichistiyut" has gotten REALLY out of hand. The chuppah began with the reading of a letter "from the Rebbe", AS IF it were addressed to the couple! Then ther was a video (really, a photo slide show w/sound track) of the late Rebbe's wedding, followed by a speech he made at someone else's wedding before he died. All this is strange, but it's just make-believe; if they want to pretend some advice given by one person to another is also meant for them, so what? But the next thing was over the top!
The chasson shouted "Yechi adoneinu v'moreinu...," etc. 3 times, and each time the crowd shouted "Amen!" Several of my friends and myself covered our ears and turned our backs from such a feeling of avodah zarah....
The singing and dancing was disturbing, too. Seems they've put their dead Rebbe into many (if not all) of the songs, so instead of "David, Melech Yisrael, Chai, Chai...." for example, it was "Adoneinu v'Morenu, Melech Yisrael, Chai, Chai...." Other songs were similarly mutilated. And the flag dancing with those yellow melech hamoshiach flags looked more like something out of Southeast Asia than anything I'd seen before at a Jewish wedding.
Rav Bar Hayim is 100% correct.
"The Skverer said, "Nobody follows the right way except me." The Vizhnitzer says, "Nobody follows the right way except me." And the Gerer the same. And I say, nobody has the right way including me. I don't have the right way either."
I don't. But you kind of implied something negative? At least that's how I see it. But on the other hand Satmar are Hassidic.
So please explain your statement.
Chabad and Breslov are the only schools today that follow the original ideologies (mainly because they follow their founding sefarim). We all know what the Satmar Rov thought about the derech of Baal Shem Tov.
It also seems clear to me that most (new) cult leaders and moshiachs today are from Breslov - in one way or the other (Elior Chein, Schick, NaNachs etc. etc.).
Shalom, Rav Bar Hayim has responded to your comments. The pdf with the responses has been added as a link in the article above. The document is called http://machonshilo.org/en/images/stories/files/Hasiduth-and-opposition-to-It-01.pdf
Here are some interesting quotes from him:
http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2008/07/breslov-i-praises-rebbe-nachman-said-of.html
A necessary work to understand the relations between Chassidim and their opponents (and the resulting excommunication ) is Mordechai Wilenskys Chassidim veMitnagdim, 2 vol., Jerusalem 1970.
This by no means describes the reality of 19th and early 20th century Europe. Most chassidish courts were fighting, and Chabad was not considered "outsiders" any more than many other groups. The biggest outsiders were Breslovers, who were put in Cherem and bullied by most groups (especially in the large domain of Chernobyl dynasties). Kotzk comes right after.
Re: 4. Again, not really. At the time of the Vilna and Brody cherems the leader of Lithuanian chassidim was still Menachem Mendel of Vitebsk. The cherem mentions practices of Tolker and Karliner chassidim. The GRA was very well informed of Chassidish believes and practices (way beyond Tanya and Chabad).
Did the Noda B'yehuda ordered the public burning of Toldot Yaakov Yosef in Prague because of Chabad?
Shalom
- 1.
Good questions. It is difficult to know for certain. Based on my impressions as well as certain facts with which I am familiar, it is safe to assume that today, 5771/2010, a majority of those who openly identify as Habad hasidhim believe that their last rebbe is alive (or at least "not dead") and that he is/was/will be the Mashiah. I cannot state with certainty how large this majority is. A significant percentage consider him to be God in human form, a shocking fact about which no more need be said.- 2.
It cannot be denied that Habad are champions at outreach. They have brought many Jews back to the Tora, and continue to do so, but it cannot be denied that they channel Jews to what they understand to be Tora. Due to their convoluted notions regarding what authentic Tora Judaism is, this is at once a very positive and an extremely lamentable state of affairs. Nearly all those attracted to Habad outreach programmes do not know enough to ask the questions you pose. Those who do should stay away.- 3.
The response I recently authored refers exclusively to Lubavitch/Habad. Other Hasidic groups are very different in almost every way; it is well known that in Europe all other Hasidic sects regarded Habad as outsiders who did not fit the normative Hasidic mould. I am unaware of any other Hasidic group that shares Habad-type beliefs.- 4.
The Gr'a and other like-minded Lithuanian Hakhamim who signed the Herem against "Hasiduth and Hasidhim" referred to Lubavitch/Habad; R. Shneur Zalman of Liadi, the first Lubavitcher rebbe, was the leader of the Hasidic movement in Lithuania. The Gr'a knew little or nothing of Hasidic groups in distant lands such as the Ukraine.- 5.
Breslev Hasidism cannot be compared to Habad. Liqute MohaRan is a very powerful work; it may be read with great care. It contains many profound teachings, as well as certain ideas that are spurious. The trick, of course, is to know how to discern between the two.- 6.
If you know a truly righteous and level-headed Tora scholar, a holy man, immersed in Tora and possessing secular knowledge and wisdom, you should spend as much time as possible in his presence.Rav David Bar-Hayim
Great idea to open up the site to comments. I would love to see some discussion generated from the articles here.
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